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@itnewsbot What's with the weird license on #Umbrel? I also notice that they use phrases that make it sound like it's #opensource, without ever actually saying that it is (presumably because the weird license means it isn't). Eg. "Built in the open. We're on Github." 🤔 Obviously they're using a lot of open source parts like #Debian and #Docker, but Umbrel itself doesn't seem like a #FOSS community project.

@lil5 @Blort @itnewsbot I strongly agree with them that #freedom and openness are spectrums, although that will obviously offend all the pro-binary black-white thinkers at the #OSI who consider anything non-OSD-compliant to be “proprietary”.

It's also ridiculous that we as #software developers apparently need other people at all who think for us and who dictate who or what aligns with freedom and openness and who or what doesn't.

@Blort @itnewsbot @pixelcode @linuxlads

From what I’ve read: https wasn’t “needed” for the cryptocurrency stuff as that didn’t require an open port to the outside world

With the recent marketing from #umbrel #LinuxUnplugged and others to advertise as a general purpose #selfhost solution they might want to reconsider

This “hard problem” has already been solved by the #caddy project it can do selfsigned CAs and letsencrypt

@lil5 @itnewsbot @pixelcode @linuxlads

Well, yes. I use #Yunohost, and that automatically installs a self signed cert without the user having to do anything, and then a #LetsEncrypt cert (with auto renewals) with just a single click.

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